How to deal with deception

Discussion started by venom1980

I had request a few projects on CGtrader and agreed to have 2 designers work on two separate projects. However, in a course of a month, I have learned that there is a lot of deception, dishonesty, and even stealing that happens with some designers.


I have contacted CGTrader support to get refunds but I wanted to know if you have dealt with some designers who are dishonest or steal other's works in some cases; meaning that steal a model from the website, repaint it or make slight changes to it and then try to sell it as their work, marking it up 4-5 folds.

Answers

Posted 15 days ago
4

If you go 3d models -> car -> filter to newest, you will see ( of course if you know what to look for) that 9 out of 10 models is stolen either from video games or from other designers. So it isn't hard to realize that if you post a project 9 out of 10 people will try to sell you stolen work. This is what most people who do business here realized long time ago, so one of the way to avoid thieves is by "using" trusted designers by asking on the forum, because community very well know who is thief and who isn't.

venom1980 wrote
Yes, I am learning that very quickly here. It's rather sad and a waste of time even attempting with some of these "designers".
tobiasrieper wrote
Real designer won't damage his/her reputation no matter what, most of those people make a living out of it, so no one is crazy to jeopardize good established bussines for couple of bucks. The problem is that nowdays, here on cgt everyone is a "designer", some of them are so professional, so that now and then they come to the forum asking how to deal with some begginer/basic stuff and on the other end presents themselves as someone who have years of expirience. Most of them are just thieves and opportunists who tries to earn quick buck without sweating and that's it.
Posted 15 days ago
2

As usually, there are two sides. On one side are we (designers) and on the other side are you (clients). In between is support@cgtrader.com.
Designers deal with deception the way that they don't start the work on project until the budget is prepaid.
Clients should probably check designer's portfolio / projects done / rating / skills before hiring anyone.

Posted 14 days ago
4

Oh yeah, I've dealt with thieves. A small example of the result of our "communication" in the last two weeks:

Source: https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/spider-gwen-bust-bank-70be7292e26b49d8a6409ed8cd7865be
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/miniatures/figurines/spider-gwen-bust-3d-model-ready-to-print-stl

Source: https://3dexport.com/3dmodel-thanos-335326.htm
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/miniatures/figurines/thanos-3d-model-ready-to-print

Source: https://3dexport.com/3dmodel-storm-342433.htm
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/miniatures/figurines/storm-3d-model-ready-to-print

Source: https://3dexport.com/3dmodel-superman-324324.htm
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/miniatures/figurines/superman-07916817-6f78-41f1-863d-969b51048189

Source: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/2rQdA
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/miniatures/figurines/voltes-v-realistic-model

Source: https://www.deviantart.com/eatalllot/art/MFS-6-MechaGodzilla-Monsterverse-inspired-756650699
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/miniatures/figurines/mechanical-godzilla

Source: https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/base-loft-office-scene-max/864752
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/interior/other/base-loft-office

Source: https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-pit-lane-trolley-3-pbr-1955317
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/sports/equipment/pit-lane-trolley-3

Source: https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-model-big-hd-gym-equipment/912003
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/interior/other/big-fitness-gym-12515dc0-15d6-43b0-834b-9b529df0bdfe

Source: https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/centinela-diorama-3-x-men
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/sentinel-diorama-3-3d-prints-stl-file

Source: https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/art/big-dog-k9-chopper-motorcycle-3d-model-for-print
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/big-dog-k9-chopper-motorcycle-3d-model-for-printing-e0f2ad3b-9b36-4fd1-a75a-5dc819cc447b

Source: https://3dexport.com/3dmodel-chevrolet-bel-air-ready-to-print-stl-file-348834.htm
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/chevrolet-bel-air-3d-model-ready-to-print

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Porsche/comments/aacl7u/let_it_snow_let_it_snow_let_it_snow/
https://www.cgtrader.com/gallery/project/porsche-91352db7-5870-41f5-b40f-d1e86e4d869c

Source: https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/art/sculptures/agent-carter-lingerie-added-nude-version
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/agent-carter-3d-prints-stl-file-7b34fec0-df52-42ca-b7ad-0fbe4968662b

Source: https://3dexport.com/3dmodel-chucky-and-medalion-193182.htm
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/chucky-killer-doll-movie-stl-file-3d-design-print-1e8bdb75-b55c-487f-8a3b-8c6d4968deed

Source: https://3ddd.ru/3dmodels/show/hotel_bedding
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/furniture/bed/bed-49-0065c937-d129-4700-9d1f-406a99e4c674

Source: https://3ddd.ru/3dmodels/show/flexteam_ray_bed
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/furniture/bed/bed-52-e46f295e-6762-47ae-9f53-e74bf40b746c

Source: https://3ddd.ru/3dmodels/show/alf_dafre_allen
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/furniture/bed/bed-62-8de58ca2-9fb8-4068-aa61-4b5a8f67d02c

Source: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/3dnggm
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/jack-nicholson-3d-prints-stl-file

Source: https://3dexport.com/3dmodel-harleyquinn-324176.htm
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/harley-quinn-v4-dc-3d-prints-stl-file

Source: https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/art/sculptures/slave-rey-from-jakku-starwars
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/rey-chained-nsfw-stl-digital-download-3d-print-files-stl-a0ec6645-0146-4adb-b4ea-0298f77754ef

Source: https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-day-at-the-pool-frog-girl-236372
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/tsuyu-socialmedia-pool-frog-girl-3d-prints-stl-file

Source: https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/mini-milk-crate-3d-stl-file-stl-files-for-3d-printers-3d-print-crate-model
https://www.cgtrader.com/free-3d-print-models/house/decor/mini-milk-crate-3d-stl-file-cb095224-e7fe-4486-a91b-d1d17d29bcd1

Source: https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/art/sculptures/bathory-the-the-bloody-countess-by-creative-geek-mb
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/bathory-the-bloody-countess-3d-prints-stl-file-f81998b6-b434-4c25-bea1-c67c74df2a34

Source: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2779286
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/house/decor/dragon-egg-box-3d-print-stl-file-stl-file

Source: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2481258
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/science/engineering/cable-holder-3d-print-stl-files-multiple-designs-3d22340e-0ec0-4c90-b270-0599b80a5d34

Source: https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-silver-surfer-137652
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/silver-surfer-marvel-fantasticfour-3d-stl-file-super-hero-figure

Source: https://www.gambody.com/3d-models/sauron-lotr
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/sauron-the-lord-of-the-rings-stl-file-ready-for-3d-print-files

Source: https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/miniatures/figurines/neliel-tu-oderschvank-bleach
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/neliel-3d-prints-stl-file

Source: https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/miniatures/figurines/secret-druid-practice
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/secret-druid-practice-sexy-girl-3d-prints-stl-file-37d74282-810a-47d3-a6d9-bcd66153eed0

Source: https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/hobby-diy/other/the-penguin-76c7caf6-4363-445c-b8a0-0c1af5bc78e3
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/penguin-dany-devito-fan-art-statue-3d-prints-stl-file

Source: https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/car/racing-car/f1-2022-rosso-red-livery
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/car/racing-car/new-f1-2022-rosso-red-livery-template

Source: https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/car/racing-car/classic-formula-one-mclaren
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/car/racing-car/old-classic-formula-one-mclaren-3d-model

Source: https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/vehicle/other/f1-2022-redbull-rb18
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/car/racing-car/new-f1-2022-redbull-rb18-3d-model

Source: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/XnR9Bn
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/riddler-jim-carrey-3d-prints-stl-file

Source: https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/art/sculptures/nessa-pokemon-trainer-girl-cool-pretty-anime-character
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/nessa-pokemon-sexy-girl-3d-prints-stl-file

Source: https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/art/big-dog-k9-chopper-motorcycle-3d-model-for-print
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/big-dog-k9-chopper-motorcycle-3d-print-high-quality-3d

Source: https://www.patreon.com/posts/may-release-pack-65854704
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/fantasy-characters-pack-may-2022-3d-prints-stl-file-1f0b7482-2810-4d2d-8789-9a08d3d4338d

Source: https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/dobby-3d-prints-stl-file-arfgvhnsfs
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/dobby-3d-prints-stl-file-348ce782-1492-4f27-b4a3-7259aa1ffbc6

Source: https://3dexport.com/3dmodel-weapon-x-wolverine-318445.htm
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/wolverine-3d-prints-stl-file-45a54eeb-da2d-485f-a5bc-c90cde02c38d

Source: https://3dexport.com/3dmodel-silver-surfer-action-figure-printable-359452.htm
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/silver-surfer-3d-prints-stl-file-ef79cc90-1cbb-4c79-b433-e9fb81cb9e0d

Source: https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/miniatures/figurines/edward-elric-fullmetal-alchemist-31db4f5b-3733-4a24-bffb-eb74617ff721
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/fullmetal-alchemist-3d-prints-stl-file
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/fullmetal-alchemist-3d-prints-stl-file-928dbfea-0e23-4f47-bacb-84ba38769e1a

Source: https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/home/skull-bowl-remix-into-skull-hanging-planter-pot
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/house/decor/skull-hanging-planter-pot-stl-3d-print-model

Source: https://www.gambody.com/3d-models/legolas-lotr
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/legolas-the-lord-of-the-rings-orlando-bloom-stl-3d-print-files

Source: https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-jaanda-hightreader-the-sidewinders-of-the-loop-184336
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/jaanda-hightreader-3d-prints-stl-file-8040ea6d-cb04-4e2c-acdd-75ffb1e4f7f0

Source: https://grabcad.com/library/ford-gt40-3
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/miniatures/vehicles/ford-gt40-47a21600-0ed4-45b7-9b96-44598d79a5e9

Source: https://grabcad.com/library/lemans-prototype-sports-car-1
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/miniatures/vehicles/lemans-prototype-sports-car

Source: https://grabcad.com/library/lotus-72-2
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/miniatures/vehicles/lotus-72

Source: https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/art/sculptures/slave-rey-from-jakku-starwars
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/rey-chained-nsfw-stl-digital-download-3d-print-files-stl-11e63602-3237-446b-8408-b48a2b6b6b3d

Source: https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/miniatures/figurines/orc-garona-halforcen
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/garona-halforcen-world-of-warcraft-stl-file

Source: https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/pennywise-girl-stl-files-for-3d
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/pennywise-girl-stl-files-for-3d-printing-horror

Source: https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/miniatures/figurines/neliel-tu-oderschvank-bleach
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/neliel-for-cgtrader-3d-prints-stl-file

Source: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/Krov0B
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/anime-girl-3d-printable-model-sexy-nsfw-digital-download-3d

Source: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/L2KYVl
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/mt-lady-my-hero-academia-3d-prints-stl-file-1d496f7d-3200-432f-a272-07d561f98a80

Source: https://3dexport.com/3dmodel-chevrolet-bel-air-ready-to-print-stl-file-348834.htm
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/chevrolet-bel-air-3d-model-ready-to-print-stl-file-3d-printing

Source: https://3dexport.com/3dmodel-silver-surfer-action-figure-printable-359452.htm
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/silver-surfer-3d-prints-stl-file

Source: https://3dexport.com/3dmodel-x-wolverine-318445.htm
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/wolverine-3d-prints-stl-file

Source: https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-swordmaster-227378
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/pack-may-2022-3d-prints-stl-file

Source: https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/corrupted-star-guardian-kaisa-03667af2390947389afd221a506ef8c3
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/corrupted-star-guardian-kaisa-and-ratchet-3d-prints-stl-file-9be99f8c-59fa-4d9c-a5ea-410daf98cfac

Source: https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-ichinose-asuna-211731
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/ichinose-asuna-and-nsfw-sexy-girl-3d-prints-stl-file

Source: https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/miniatures/figurines/cameron-diaz-in-charlies-angels-including-nude-version
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/angels-3d-prints-stl-file-467274ad-5296-431a-8374-9f0aaa1bad9b

Source: https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-morklos-157007
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/the-trench-morklos-3d-prints-stl-file

Source: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1835574
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/halloween-haunted-house-3d-print-stl-file

Source: https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-164024
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/boneflesh-dragon-necromancer-sexy-girl-3d-prints-stl-file

Source: https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/miniatures/figurines/chucky-e24fd9d3-be8a-43e3-a142-b8728469d7b7
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/chucky-killer-doll-movie-stl-file-3d-design-print

Source: https://www.gambody.com/3d-models/sauron-lotr
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/sauron-the-lord-of-the-rings-file-3d-stl

Source: https://www.gambody.com/3d-models/legolas-lotr
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/toys/legolas-the-lord-of-the-rings-stl-file-ready-for-3d-print-files

Source: https://www.renderhub.com/lisahenniga/carnage-statue
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/character/fantasy-character/carnage-7c6c53ba-de8f-4889-a10d-14b767b0cd3b

Source: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/YelVKq
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/character/fantasy-character/aliens-vs-predator

Source: https://3dexport.com/3dmodel-kratos-god-of-war-3d-print-model-339986.htm
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/character/man/god-of-war-11584743-3d12-491c-9614-8c18f8cc9641

Source: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/XBaP3R
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/miniatures/figurines/spider-vs-venom-3d-model-ready-to-print

Source: https://www.behance.net/gallery/32040127/Spider-Gwen-Figure
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/miniatures/figurines/spider-gwen-3d-model-ready-to-print

Source: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/4bXr2k
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/miniatures/figurines/spiderman-noir-washed-3d-model-ready-to-print

What to do if you found a thief, were deceived or trying to deceive you with a project, you received spam, etc.? Write to the Support Team.

Posted 12 days ago
1

I did write to the team and received refund.

Posted 2 days ago
0

if message come to my inbox asking to buy or buid a model for them either here or face book..my way dealing with deception , is more safety not for id dertails to be stolen ....

when the say they are 3d mofler or buyer i will ask questions based around rendering topolgy , texturing painting ect ... these questions you can get ideaa if they are who they say they are proposting to be ... ask them to do tideo tests for u send live footage ect .....not full proof //that what i offer ... ive hadf peole say they work for rock star within emessages sent to me

Posted 2 days ago
0

if message come to my inbox asking to buy or buid a model for them either here or face book..my way dealing with deception , is more safety not for id dertails to be stolen ....

when the say they are 3d mofler or buyer i will ask questions based around rendering topolgy , texturing painting ect ... these questions you can get ideaa if they are who they say they are proposting to be ... ask them to do tideo tests for u send live footage ect .....not full proof //that what i offer ... ive hadf peole say they work for rock star within emessages sent to me

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