Why are my models suspended?
Discussion started by mrzool
Not for nothing yesterday CGTrader suspended the sale of my model, which has been on sale for a long time. I immediately wrote to support.I did not receive a response.This morning, the sale of another of my models was suspended.I again wrote to support and again did not receive an answer. Gentlemen and ladies from the support service department - what is going on ?! I sell models that I create myself and I can prove it if necessary, but give me the chance to do it.
Provide support in the end!
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Читаю, размышляю... Очень много забаненных моделей, полностью забаненных 3Dшников, которые тут зарабатывают своим тяжелым трудом. Скажите, продавать вилки законно? Отвертки? Карандаши? Ведь вилкой можно выколоть глаз! Карандашом можно убить человека... Отвёткой еще проще. Да чем угодно! Хоть пальцем... А мы, друзья, создаём 3d модели - вилок, карандашей, отверток, рук и так далее. Нас обвиняют, что мы нарушаем правила сайта? Но ведь это всего лишь 3D модели!
I think not many fair designers was banned (if even ONE honest... no.) As I know (and I'm not shy to confess I reported LOTS of cheaters/fraudsters) banned "designers" wasn't designers but sellers of stolen models. I don't know about banned designers (even in silly anti-"weapons" campaign was harmed only models, not designers.) I'm sure, crawling stolen 10000 times models on VK boards and other sites or ripping models from the games is not "sweaty hard work".
https://ibb.co/vszb8SD
Feel free to report these and don't forget to add wireframes - let's see if I'll be banned like you
I mean to clarify that the research behind each model will find it similar in some way. I also put in every model with wire and it is very clear that it is done by me and not modified, and I have closed my friend. I hope you understood me and I will try to do something different thanks .
https://ibb.co/85t5XpH
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I can see the differences in this example, but I'm sure CGT will not ban you if they didn't had solid proof. They usually just remove the reported models if they are just 1 or 2, but if they banned your whole account, that means there were a lot of models reported, they were reviewed and confirmed as stolen. The irregular topology I see on your screenshots tells me that they were right. Nobody will model a wrecked geometry like this - these were clearly modified already made models.
Thank you for your interest and response. They did not reply until after 5 days and it was not enough and they did not explain the reason even , but I can then fix all this. I do not need many details of my product. I will be satisfied with simple models, but the site is full of more things than my simple models to take care of. in this way
I agree with that. There are a lot of stolen models that should be removed.
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I am aware of the situation with the exhibition booths sellers, most of their scenes are full with the same stolen furniture and plants from Evermotion and also with stolen people models by AXYZ and RenderPeople.
Some of them don't even bother to modify them like you did.
I'm sure they will be banned soon too.
What they are doing is not an excuse for what you are doing and if they are not banned yet, that doesn't mean that this is allowed.
I understand that you are considering those models as something you just put in to fill in the scene, but if you model them it takes time and that rises the price of the scene.
If you think they are not important just sell your scene without them, or just make your own - is that simple.
The topic is simple, but the most difficult thing is to search for any model that I may be similar to, because most of the furniture are the same even in the models that you sell some of them are similar with other sites, although they differ in a simple way, my friend. I try to avoid this by leaving the model on a different originality (spline -box ) and the plants are all the same because they are all elements of nature thanks for explain your opinion
https://ibb.co/vszb8SD
Lol, I'm in this business for more than 10 years and I've seen it all. I can tell when something is stolen and modified and when it's original.
All furniture and plants may look the same to you and not professionals, but these models are easily recognizable by all who have experience. It's funny that you took the time to look through my collection, but every pro that looks at the topology of your examples will be able to tell if a mesh has been edited or created originally - it's really easy to tell.
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Do you realize that by making that circus you are harming not only yours, but the reputation of all of 3D Artists?
People like you are making all of us to look like a bunch of thieves and devalues our craft as a whole.
Do you really want to be looked like a beggar when you learn to model and try to find a job in the future?
You are creating that future for all 3D Artists, think about that..
I will just answer you that I said to leave you the page of the rest of the members in the exhibitions section to know that most of the furniture models are similar to evermotion because they are models of real furniture to know that the real stupidity is that we are hunting for some I do not sell furniture it is an element just as it is not present in the rest of my other designs tried to Be smart and check out the full pages
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models?keywords=booth+exhibition&suggested=1
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models?keywords=booth+exhibition&page=2&suggested=1
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I think what you did is obvious to all experienced (and not so) 3D artists here.
If it was only one or two models that look like modified Evermotion models I would have given you the benefit of the doubt, but when ALL of them are like this, it's really clear case.
As I said, if you had used all of that time and energy to make your own models you wouldn't have trouble, and would have made more money, so what you are doing is really stupid.
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I clarify my point of view if a person drew a Boeing plane while it was on a site Evermotion and many people drew it. Is this theft that an existing item was redrawn differently only the new Tesla car was redrawn the site from more than one person in general I sent them another clarification and composition Item and wait for their response
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I understand the view of the similarity, but these sofa are in only one model, and it is actually present and implemented already, so there is no faithful design, just as the model that I made is a modified stereoscopic shapes inside the program, and there is no match in the composition of the model, they can close the existing model with the similarity only and inform me In particular, they know that it is made by me and not stolen or modified
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Alright, I looked at the screenshots and I'll tell you what I think.
ALL of the furniture I see look like modified Evermotion models (which are probably the most pirated models in the world)
Here is one example for your first screenshot:
https://ibb.co/hLckmhN
And that is done in the most amateurish way possible - you literally wrecked those models, just to be able to pretend that you had created them...
With the same effort you could have created your own more simplistic furniture which will look more clean topology wise, a lot less suspicious and you would have more sales because of that.
I don't think you should underestimate CGT staff, they wouldn't have banned you without reason.
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The account has been closed with all contents, but I have pictures of it and the plant is not the product but it is also inside the product
yurigasco my account name and all product are booth and exhibition
It made it easier for them to review the models for furniture and plants and all the details by add wire frame because they do not review the details, they just press the Cancel Account button, and despite that they did not tire themselves to review anything while the other sites give you a deadline to prove your right as the product only has a problem and the account is not broken.
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This site is not completely guaranteed and is valid for amateurs only and closes the accounts without a clear and sufficient response. They closed my account for a similarity and it does not match the form with a complete difference in the composition of the plant element present in nature and when providing sufficient clarification, you do not find a response except that we have the right to close any account only I think If they continue to do so, they will lose most of the designers
https://evermotion.org/shop/show_product/plant-1-am41-archmodels/6620
https://ibb.co/5TCp0wK
https://ibb.co/nQGGpJp
is this model is the same ?
I kind of doubt that you were selling only this wrecked plant and you were banned for it. Can you show us what your portfolio looked like and what was your account name?
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Толерантность, мой друг, поработила мир! Под ее воздействием люди напридумывал всякие глупые законы, которыми они теперь повязаны по рукам и ногам. И ведь доходит до абсурда, когда например американский полицейский дважды подумает, поднять ли руку на напавшего на него чернокожего бандита, а то не дай бог обвинят в рассизме и это всколыхнет беспорядки черного населения по всей Америке, а потом ещё и закончится судом над этим самым полицейским за привышение власти. Были уже такие случаи. Вот до чего мы докатились. А теперь ещё лезут со своими законами и ограничениями в творчество. Это им нельзя рисовать, то им нельзя печатать. Дебелизм!
В толерантности самой по себе я вижу не плохое, а хорошее. А то, с чем мы имеем дело - это не толерантность, а самодурство масс и их вождей. То есть фарс в угоду кучке привилегированных лиц (политиков и коммерсантов), ведущий к мракобесию.
добавлю: всё это те самые "двойные стандарты". Терпилы эти правила принимают. Тех, кто не согласен - давят сомнительными законами и устаревшими нормами. Что самое смешное, эта система вылилась не из потуг построить социализм, а из противоположного лагеря, из "рыночного".
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fully support! we have all passed these "prohibitions". I myself from the former Soviet Union. once there they were already fighting alcohol with a ban on the sale of alcohol throughout the country. Do you think these methods have solved the problem of alcoholism in the country? not at all! firstly, a lot of smuggled alcohol appeared at inflated prices, in addition, a lot of fake low-quality alcohol produced at home and in most cases led to poisoning or death. so all these prohibition methods are bullshit!
it does not work in our realities.
О том и речь. А китайское системное раболепие или западные наивные и лицемерные рассуждения типа комментаторов выше в самом деле бесят. Уехал от этих терпил, которые хуже фашистов, а их собратья здесь в интернетах во всю присутствуют.
Yes :) I remember this dumb campaign during perestroika. And can recommend to all people who supports prohibitions to visit Russia and to live there :) May be then they.will be little wiser and tolerant (but not in the case with chinese cityzens :)))))))))
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I’ll tell you something else. Not only a Pokemon statue can become a weapon. For example, any radio-controlled model of a car can be made a bomb. For this you need some TNT. It’s interesting, if anyone on this site will not be embarrassed by the fact that if he finds out tomorrow that the model of his truck downloaded on this site was turned into mobile explosives, and they blew up a car somewhere.
All these limitations in 3D printing, forgive me, complete nonsense! Technological progress and its application cannot be stopped by such methods.
It's exactly what I'm talking about! It's why words of some sheeps about "why this or that must be banned" looks stupid and very hypocritic.
but they have morphed pseudo-communist mentality (usual for PRC, ex-USSR and USA)... "jebiga", as says people from Balcan.
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I want to add, but what about companies such as Marushin for example, which sell absolutely realistic air weapons which, with certain skills of the buyer, can also be turned into murder weapons. at least it’s impossible to shoot from a model of my weapon, and my models are ten times cheaper than the models that Marushin produces. Nobody wants to close these companies? today the police rush to extremes. they cannot defeat the terror who wanted to spit on all restrictions and are trying to put pressure on law-abiding citizens like me. Of course, it’s easier to influence us, because we comply with the laws.
Honestly, your model isn't illegal. Sometimes some jerks here (on CGT) are reporting models as inappropriate. Administration suspends or blocks this models for premoderation immeately. They are don't looking at this model nor don't analyzing situation, they just doing their primitive job. Few days ago somebody reported my model of 3 rings made from letters XYN (or XYЙ in russian) as "adult content". I just published this model again and that's it. So you can freely publish your models again. At least because your explanation is more rational and fully logically supported. Don't lose you nerves to anonymous donkeys, who have Mao-red brains or are affraid.9f pictures.on the screen. Craftsmen and designers must not suffering from retards. It's my not humble opinion.
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I see that the problem I raised caused a heated discussion (in comparison with other similar topics on this site) of an ethical nature. I read all the answers. each is right in his own way. as for my models: firstly, they are made according to design drawings, which can be freely found on the Internet in the public. as a rule, this is a historical weapon, not a modern one. it is intended for example for collecting or for theatrical productions, and not for real use. I always warn about this in the annotation. although, on YouTube, some people turned to me asking , whether it was possible to shoot real ammunition from it. I always answer this question negatively and not only because I did not check and do not intend to, but also because my models do not have one hundred percent accuracy of manufacturing parts, and some parts that can guarantee shooting are completely absent. I do this precisely because it would be impossible to create combat weapon from my files. This fact also several times caused discontent among my customers. on the other hand, i thought so, a CGTrader did me a favor by deleting my models, thereby protecting me from potential legal proceedings. )))
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sure, anything can be used as a weapon, but the ease at which one can kill another or others varies vastly depending on the object. People 3d printing working guns print them at least with some intention of causing harm, self-defense or otherwise. As the creator of assets we certainly have some ethical responsibility, we don't know for certain what the end user will use our assets for. Regarding your argument, if someone wanted to commit say a robbery and wanted to have a weapon that's hard for the authorities to trace, 3d printing a gun is an option as even if they leave the gun at the crime scene the police can't trace where the gunman bought the gun. Would you imagine a person with those kinds of intentions would buy and 3d print a pokemon figurine rather than a working gun for the purpose of killing?
Surely guys who can make 3d printable mass killing weapons are talented to be able to make other things? There's no reason why one should focus on making only these kinds of products.
Again I feel it's right that 3d printable working guns are banned.
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Personally if there is potential for the end user to 3d print a working gun out of a readily available model, I feel it's right to ban those models. In my country there has been more reported cases of gun violence/murder using 3d printed guns, so I really don't feel safe if those kinds of models can just be bought on the internet.
Wow, i wasn't even aware that one can actually 3D print a working firearm out of plastic. I really doubt that any of 3D model on cgtrader could be used for that, but i guess it's better safe than sorry.
The future is getting more scary every day.
I can print pokemon or little pony figurine, cast it in brass or iron and after all use it as weapon. Let's ban all 3D-models! 3D-models are killing people!
I think they don't allow models that was made not for CG but with production quality. I searched Mrzool's models on other resources and found very cool and quality made assemblies of real weapon. I don't think that those things must be banned. But exists lots of silly EU and US "laws" and directives that ban this kind of information. And CGT-support just quickly suspends this and similar models just after some retard from internet or "legal bureau" (such some "Ficker and Partners") reports this model as "law breaking". I don't know about consequences, but in similar cases (when coyote-lawyers reports my replicas of some brands), I'm just putting my models back as new items.
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Everything cleared up, but the explanation did not please me. CG trader received a certain request to remove all the content associated with the weapon from the service. I only sell weapons, so I have currently suspended sales of absolutely all content. The others, who also sell weapon models, get ready to get similar unpleasant news. As for me, I hope that this restriction does not affect other sites where I sell weapons models.
no, they also suspend my car model:(
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