Terms and Conditions Update

Discussion started by nabinthapaliya446

I got this mail saying
Dear Seller,

We're updating Section 18.11 of our General Terms and Conditions to create more sales opportunities for your 3D models, especially with large enterprise buyers.

What's Changing?
To better connect your creations with enterprise clients, Section 18.11 now allows CGTrader itself to purchase licenses for your models in order to re-sell and sublicense them to enterprise buyers.

This change enables us to meet the specific needs of large companies for bulk purchases by addressing their procurement requirements. It’s designed to boost your visibility, open up new opportunities and new sales channels.


How Does This Help You?
This update offers significant benefits by expanding your market reach:

More sales opportunities: Your models can now be considered by large businesses with specific purchasing requirements.
Wider audience: Access bigger projects and corporate deals that might have been out of reach before.
Easier bulk sales: We'll handle the complex process for large enterprise purchases, simplifying it for you.

Answers

Posted 3 days ago
17

Another heavy hit. Last update with payments I raised my prices. After this crap Im leaving. I mean WTF!?

redbenstudios wrote
redbenstudios
Has anyone seen any provided ways to opt out of this agreement?
Posted 3 days ago
4

How do you understand this? My models are no longer mine?

intarsbroks wrote
intarsbroks
They are yours but they can resell and use them how they please
Posted 3 days ago
11

I Don't want cgtrader to own my product they are mine and I have right to keep and use them the way I want. And there’s no transparency regarding the pricing, how will I know at what price cgtrader selling the bulk product to the buys. They all seems shady.

Posted 3 days ago
13

There should be an option to opt out. It shouldn’t be a mandatory condition.

Posted 3 days ago
4

There should be an option to opt out. It shouldn’t be a mandatory condition.

Posted 3 days ago
8

The points in the update worry me. And these points are especially alarming:
- "...Seller shall not be compensated for such submission of the Products for verification or testing."
- "... In case the Seller removed the Product from the Site or changed the price or licence of the Product after it has been provided to the Buyer for verification or testing purposes, should the Product be selected by such Buyer for purchase, the Product can be sold to a Buyer after its removal from the Site and it can be sold at the price and with the licence which prevailed at the moment it was provided to the Buyer."
And this point gives me an ambiguous attitude and many questions:
- "When enterprise Buyer agrees to purchase the Products, the sale process may manually be completed at the Site as per Terms and Conditions established thereunder..."
How to understand all this? I'm just confused...

mkiii wrote
mkiii
It means that even if you remove the item after it is sold to a third party, CGT claim ownership of it, and can continue to sell it without paying you. THIS IS NOT LEGAL, IT IS THEFT. Without any opt-out, the only way to protect YOUR WORK from the theft of them by CGT is to remove them all now.
Posted 3 days ago
13

For fuck sake!
At the moment when big and small corporations are all feeding AI with all of the data they can get their hands on, you provide free access to all of our models for free bulk downloads "for verification or testing" seriously???

Posted 3 days ago
8

LMAO this is shady AF, for now i'm gonna raise my price by 5x, this site has become the shadiest & scummiest 3D marketplace i've ever seen

Posted 3 days ago
7

I've got the notifications of several of my models been bought starting from last month by "cgt-clients", I do not know if this is some legit user or
if cgtrader already started purchasing my models to resell them in future?

I do not agree to these new condition, I do not allow CGtrader to resell and sublicense my work in any shape or form without my consent.
After these and the changes at the payout rate this is a really concerning situation.

Posted 3 days ago
12

It is sad. Very sad. I just deleted all my models. They gave some good passive income. But THEY ARE MINE! And by deleting them they stay mine.
You know what the sad part is? They probably have at least 2 backups for all site models. Even if you delete them they still have them, but at least they wont make profit anymore. I will stay in this forum just to see how this all unfolds. But yeah, my patience is full.

VirtualMecha wrote
VirtualMecha
wait, that's only possible if you already got sales from cgt-client, right?, so if i never opted for that promotion then my models are still safe from this cgt scum?
3D-concept wrote
3D-concept
This is really very sad!
Posted 3 days ago
6

CGTrader, what is going on with you? why so many changes in a short period of time? Can we opt out? What should we expect in the next few months? Please explain..

Elvair wrote
Elvair
Probably some AI company paid big money to get their hands on our models at any cost.
Posted 3 days ago
6

Yet another cash grab at our expense. This is completely unacceptable if there is NO OPT-OUT! Are they determined to get rid of us all?

trimitek wrote
trimitek
Looks like it.. It kind of feels like CGT was bought by some other company.. There is definitely something shady going on there
Posted 3 days ago
9

This is so much worse than the last change, where they reduced artists' pay.

Now, if I understand this correctly, they can legally do whatever they want with the models that we, the artists, created. They can sell them to whoever they want, for any price they choose, and with any license they decide.

We pretty much lose all control over our models being used for AI, mass production, or anything else.

If there’s no option to opt out of this agreement, you won’t be seeing me using this platform starting from the 14th of July.

LemonadeCG wrote
LemonadeCG
It's even worse, they think that they have right to give away our models for free "for verification" without our consent. I'm pretty sure it's illegal.
dibiadigital wrote
dibiadigital
They have lost the plot. Imagine the landlord of your shop making deals based on items you are selling in your shop without your consent. Bear in mind that these are items you procured on your own with your money, your labour, your sweat and with absolutely no input from the landlord. Somewhere down the line, CGT forgot that if 3D artists removed their models, CGT would be DEAD and there would be NO revenue. That little piece of fact appears to be somewhat lost in translation. Other 3D marketplaces are guilty of this to some extent, but CGT takes the cake of needlessly antagonizing 3D artists.
JuditaCGTrader wrote
JuditaCGTrader
Hello NikolaDoes3d, You still fully own your models. This update does not change your prices or licenses, and CGTrader can only resell each model once to a single enterprise buyer, paying you for that sale. There are no multiple resales or license changes. The goal is to open up sales to trusted enterprise clients who have complex procurement needs, not to reduce your control or misuse your work. Your licensing terms still apply, including any restrictions on AI or mass production.
Posted 3 days ago
10

I'm pretty sure all that's illegal if there's no opt-out option. Maybe it's time for class action lawsuit against cgtrader? At some point we have to say loud and clear - ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, STOP ROBBING US!

Posted 3 days ago
4

I am opting out from Discount sale events and heavily increasing prices on all my models in the hope that they take a step back on this, but I think I am alreay in a bad situation since they already bought my models with the cgt- client account.

mkiii wrote
mkiii
BEFORE the proposed changes. Not that they seem to be worried about the law at this point.
Posted 3 days ago
6

Here we go again. Just when you thought CGT has hit rock bottom, the ground opens up to reveal a bottomless pit. You cannot forcefully take ownership of someone's intellectual property. Opt-out should be the default and those who for some strange reason want to relinquish the rights to their intellectual properties will be given the option to do so.

I sincerely hope that deleting one's models on this repulsive platform means they no longer have access/control. Judging form their recent nefarious actions, I wouldn't doubt they would still have access to your models to use as they please even after you have deleted them from the platform.

The only viable marketplaces for 3d models at the moment appear to be FAB, Unity Asset Store, Turbosquid (unfortunately with the 40% royalty rate),Superhive formerly Blender Market (Promotes 70% but pays 65%-66% royalty after fees), 3DExport (Promotes 70% but pays 65% royalty after 5% merchant fee). FlippedNormals has 75% royalty rate but the traffic over there is abysmal.

LemonadeCG wrote
LemonadeCG
"I sincerely hope that deleting one's models on this repulsive platform means they no longer have access/control." After July 14 that's no longer the case - they've changed T&C, so now even if you will delete all the models from the site, cgtrader will happily sell them to whomever they please, possibly even without paying royalties to you. It's like hotel California, you can check out, but you can never leave.
madefun3d wrote
From what I understand, pretty much every market out there keeps the product in their servers, even if you deleted it, so that the previous buyers can re-download the product that they bought in the past, but the market should not be able to sell the product by itself, if the designer deleted the product. This sounds fair for the buyers, but I feel there should be a time limit, like a year or so. The market should not have the right to keep the models eternally, event if it is just to allow for re-downloads.
Posted 3 days ago
5

The account "cgt clients" bought the models during sales event with 70% discount and on that sales the payout rate still applies, so they basically got the models for a fraction of their $ value. I do not have words.

NeoStarStudios wrote
NeoStarStudios
Something similar happened to me. Once, they grabbed a bunch of my models for just a fraction of their price as well. Another time, I kept getting notifications about these "CGT clients" purchasing my models—but none of those sales ever showed up in the report. They probably gave the models away for free to one of their clients.
Posted 3 days ago
4

Hold on a minute. This an OPT OUT that is already there. I knew I hadn't agreed to any of this, and made a point of opting out of everything when they tried to cheat us by automatically opting everyone IN to sales and AI usage a while back.

https://www.cgtrader.com/profile/sales#discounts (scroll down to the bottom of the page).

Does the proposed change to T&C remove this option? We need clarification, now CGT! I know you read the forums, even if you don't reply at all.

I suggest everyone asks for clarification by messaging the author of this thread their question directly. :-https://www.cgtrader.com/designers/nabinthapaliya446

LemonadeCG wrote
LemonadeCG
The OP is not an employer of cgtrader, it's just another seller who shared the news. If you want to message cgtrader about this, which we all should definitely do, the proper way is to write to support@cgtrader.com
3D-concept wrote
3D-concept
I have the same settings. As for the author of this thread, he probably just copied and pasted here the message that everyone received by email. I don't think he has any explanation for this situation.
nabinthapaliya446 wrote
nabinthapaliya446
I am as disappointed as you are when i received this mail just here to share the news and to know how other thinks about this updates.
Posted 3 days ago
2

Deleting your 3D models or raising prices for just one or two accounts won’t make much of a difference. If you really want to have an impact, it needs to be done in numbers. We need to stand together and take action as a group. All artist or creator need to unit specially those who have more than 100 models. Whether that means removing content or adjusting prices.

Posted 3 days ago
1

Deleting your 3D models or raising prices for just one or two accounts won’t make much of a difference. If you really want to have an impact, it needs to be done in numbers. We need to stand together and take action as a group. All artist or creator need to unit specially those who have more than 100 models. Whether that means removing content or adjusting prices.

GunsNTanks wrote
GunsNTanks
Sorry for posting twice
Posted 3 days ago
5

Possible pre-sale cleanup?
Interesting timing with all these changes – tighter license control, resale rights even after model removal, and free enterprise previews.
It looks like CGTrader might be preparing for a bigger move – acquisition, merger, or pivot?
Hard not to wonder if this is more about making the books look clean than supporting artists.

As far as I can see, they cannot legally do this retroactively - but I guess you (as an artist) will have to agree to this moving forward, or get the hell out of Dodge.

Posted 3 days ago
5

https://www.cgtrader.com/profile/sales#discounts at the bottom of the page I have long ago set up the settings to refuse to participate in sales programs. Also, for this reason, I have an old email confirmation from CGTrader that my wishes have been taken into account.
I also took screenshots from this page of my settings, which were set earlier, before receiving today's notification from CGTrader about the change in the "General Terms". This is my disagreement to participate in these programs, namely:
- Sell my models for equity, custom enterprise deals, revenue share, and other alternative compensation methods
- Sell my models on other platforms via CGTrader partnerships
These screenshots are proof that I did not agree to before the official notification from CGTrader by email about the change in the "General Terms" and do not agree at the moment either, and at the time of entry into force (July 14, 2025) of the new changes, my refusal to participate in these programs will be in effect.

Posted 3 days ago
8

These nefarious scum-bags are really hell bent on brazen intellectual property theft. First they asked "nicely" for us to give up our intellectual property rights with a default Ai opt-in and optional opt-out, many told them to kick rocks and opted out of that garbage. Then they hit us with mandatory discount with e-mail opt-out, while ignoring the opt-out option already implemented in the user settings, many again told them to go outside, take off their shoes and kick rocks.

As if those were not enough buffoonery, they decided to slash our royalty rates significantly with a harebrained imbecilic rating system. While we are already on the ground writhing in agonizing pain, these sadistic 4ks who have blatantly refused to take “no” for an answer decided to get in some licks with this new scheme that for now appears to be gearing toward forceful takeover of our intellectual properties against our wish, even after we delete and remove our 3d models from their marketplace. I am not a lawyer but I am pretty sure that is illegal af.

So what’s next, because I do not think we have hit rock bottom. Perhaps we’ll be mandated with no opt-out option to pay CGT a monthly subscription fee to publish our models which they will automatically own.

The only viable option is to delete all models from CGtrader before July 14 and get ready for a massive class action lawsuit, because one can reasonably infer from their previous dubious actions that they are very likely to retain possession of your 3d models and use them as they please, against your wish, even after deleting and removing them from CGTrader before July 14. Whatever they say cannot be trusted. Their assurances must me considered meaningless.

Looks like it is time to get the hell outta Dodge.

Posted 3 days ago
-20

Hi everyone,

Thank you all for your feedback - we appreciate your engagement! We understand that updates like this can raise questions, and we're here to provide as much clarity as possible.

First, you still fully own your 3D models. This update does not transfer ownership of your work to CGTrader. Instead, it allows CGTrader to purchase licenses from you in order to resell to large enterprise clients who often require bulk licensing agreements that can be complex to manage on a case-by-case basis. Models are sublicensed to a single enterprise buyer only. Each sale to a client equals a direct purchase from you, never multiple resales.

Why this change?
Large companies often need to buy many models at once and have specific procurement rules. Previously, such deals were difficult to facilitate on the platform, as the buyers did not want to use the site to purchase models, but rather make a purchase directly from us purely due to their internal procurement processes. This update opens a new channel for sales, potentially increasing your visibility and revenue opportunities with bigger clients.

Regarding pricing and transparency:
CGTrader will buy licenses at the prices and terms you set for your models. We do not alter your prices or licensing conditions. We will provide clear records of any sales made, so you can always track how your work is being sold.

Verification or testing:
This process is standard practice in many industries where buyers need to assess the product before purchase. The terms are designed to prevent misuse of your models but allow buyers to make informed bulk purchasing decisions. Rest assured, we collaborate only with credible enterprise buyers who adhere to licensing terms and handle procurement responsibly.

Can you opt out?
This is a platform-wide update designed to open up new sales channels without changing the price or license terms you’ve set for your models. Your models are sold exactly as listed, and you’re compensated accordingly.

Your trust is important to us, and we want to ensure these changes work for the entire community. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions.

mkiii wrote
mkiii
"Can you opt out? This is a platform-wide update designed to open up new sales channels without changing the price or license terms you’ve set for your models. Your models are sold exactly as listed, and you’re compensated accordingly." ... That doesn't answer the question. CAN WE OPT OUT, and are you changing the CURRENT OPT OUT?
wh1t3h4ck5 wrote
wh1t3h4ck5
@mkiii, Oh man. You're so naïve. You can ask but you will never get an answer. That's their way for so long here. They even don't answer to support questions if they don't like it or not in their personal benefit. They don't give a shit for you or anyone else here. You're just a slave for them. What else you need to figure out they are nothing more than just a liars. Every single word they say is a lie. They put everyone in bulk sales and we never got any answer why (or apology)t. They promised that taking money from us will benefit us actually, but everyone is having significant lower sales and they never answered what's real benefit. They promised that royalty rate wont change (or change will be insignificant) but we all got 10% lower royalties in average. Did they EVER provide any answer. No. They LIE, LIE and LIE. That's what they do.
LemonadeCG wrote
LemonadeCG
"Verification or testing: This process is standard practice in many industries where buyers need to assess the product before purchase." No, it's not, not without product owner's consent. Every marketplace that has this option, allows sellers to opt-out. You're the only marketplace, that feels to have the right to opt-in everyone by default and to not offer an option to opt-out. WTF, is happening to you? Does your greed has no limits?
Posted 3 days ago
5

So big companies can bypass the regular market, analyze and test models for free and anonymously.
We, the creators and sellers, lose a large amount of control over our products at the expense of the interests of the big companies and at a time when you have reduced our share of profit on products sold.
I would like more transparency about who takes my models to test them and have the ability to approve or deny this on a case-by-case basis as well.

Posted 3 days ago
12

They CAN'T change license at their own. It's copyright violation and EU courts have zero tolerance for that kind of activity. Royalty Free (so called Standard) license forbids reselling. And author only can set a license.

They CAN'T force people to sell their models on third market if they don't want it.

They CAN implement new license but that MUST BE free will for users to allow it. And in order to do that, they MUST let users set new price for resellers which is usually 100 to 500 times greater than usual standard price.

For any violation of EU laws it's jurisdiction of European Court of Justice (ECJ) in Luxemburg but you must sue them in front of Supreme Court of Lithuania, Vilnius and then they send case to Luxemburg. And don't worry, you can do everything online with no lawyer (www.lat.lt) and there's no chance to lose a case. Your job is just to set a price for settlement that can't be negotiated.

They have violated like 8 EU regulations and laws and at least 5 international laws when it comes to Copyright Violation, Financial Fraud and few more sections of individual laws.

Posted 3 days ago
8

How are these tests controlled?
In what form exactly is the model provided?
Is the file complete? With watermarks? Technical limitations?
How do they ensure that the customer does not use it without purchasing or that the model is modified or used as a basis for building variations?

The risk is that a complete file will be distributed to a company and never purchased, with no way for us to verify or prevent it.

If a vendor does not want to participate, it should have the right to refuse sublicenses and free testing.

wh1t3h4ck5 wrote
wh1t3h4ck5
You have rights by the law but they don't give a shit about law. Basically, it's like competition to them, to see how many EU and international laws and regulations they can violate. They are already dead as Dodo but but they're still blind to see it. And this suffocation is kind of fun to watch and witness. TurboSquid with 40% royalty is actually way better than CGT. Because TS does everything according to the law and you can't find any illegal thing in their business (they have decent legal department and that was conditioned back in 2021 when ShutterStock bought them for $74M). Here, is opposite situation. Almost nothing is legal. Mark my words, before the end of the year, CGT won't be in top 20 platforms but I doubt they will survive that long.
Posted 3 days ago
1

@Judita
NewsReport:
"OpenAI and Microsoft are accused of training their artificial intelligence technology with illegally obtained personal data belonging to millions of online users in a class-action lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California, Reuters reports."

Just make a google search for companies who stole user data to train AI and you will find names like Google, Microsoft, Meta, LinkedIn - I guess you will call all these "credible enterprise buyers", but some of them are already facing lawsuits.

You simply can not guarantee that our models will not be used for that and that's why you have to provide us an option to opt out of these so called "Verification or testing" downloads, as this is just begging to be abused.

LemonadeCG wrote
LemonadeCG
Don't be afraid, corporation won't buy your models at regular prices even if heavily discounted for AI training. Why would they do that when cgtrader conveniently offers all its database for that: https://www.cgtrader.com/datasets All our models already in those datasets, no matter if you were opt-in or opt-out.
madefun3d wrote
@LemonadeCG Thank you for that link (https://www.cgtrader.com/datasets), I was not aware that CGtrader was offering these services so explicitly. Everyone should read the FAQ, it pretty much says it all. They are selling our models for AI training. Milking the dead cow before CGTrader goes out of business too.
3DCargo wrote
3DCargo
@LemonadeCG, when you say "All our models already in those datasets, no matter if you were opt-in or opt-out." how is that possible when it says on that link "All 3D models are contributed by our designer community, where each creator chooses whether to make their models available for AI or no-AI use. This system ensures ethical sourcing and puts designers first by giving them full control over how their work is used."
LemonadeCG wrote
LemonadeCG
3DCargo, don't be naive, how can you trust them when you know for fact that what they're saying is NOT true - "Designers in our 3D community choose to license their models for AI training" - NOBODY chose noAI license for their models, cgtrader unilaterally changed the license and left for designers to figure it out and roll back to previous license. If this is ethical sourcing, then i don't want to know what they call unethical sourcing. Their liars and thieves, there's no other way about it.
LemonadeCG wrote
LemonadeCG
Also look at the search bar, it says "more than 2 million models" and in their AI datasets they advertising to have 2.3 million models. That's basically every single of our models, probably including those that were deleted at some point for one or another reason - nothing goes to waste. Once you upload something to cgtrader, it is own by them. Just look at the latest announcement - now they're talking about sub-licensing, reselling your models even if you change the price, license, or delete the model altogether. How's that can be called other than claiming ownership over our models? It's fucking ridiculous. Literally worst marketplace on the internet.
3DCargo wrote
3DCargo
I prefer to er on the side of benefit of the doubt rather than naivety. When the AI change happened I requested cgt to bulk switch opt-out. This was the email I received - "As per your request, your models will not be used for AI generation, and they will not be sold as part of any AI-related deals. We respect your choice and are committed to ensuring that your data is handled according to your preferences." While I hope they act in good faith I agree with your opinion about the current state of this market place.
trimitek wrote
trimitek
Damn! I didn't noticed those 2.3mil. models add in the AI database. It really looks like all of our models are there. I don't see any other logical explanation. They can't lie for the numbers, because whoever buys it can most likely check it....
3DCargo wrote
3DCargo
I honestly think its an exaggeration, but I could certainly be wrong.
3DCargo wrote
3DCargo
Also question for you @LemonadeCG, will you stay on CGT?
Posted 3 days ago
10

The new enterprise sales system — which allows model testing and sublicensing without seller opt-in or compensation — combined with the updated royalty model, which in many cases lowers the percentage for experienced artists despite years of contribution, and the growing lack of control sellers have over how their work is used, priced, and distributed, raises serious concerns and uncertainty.

These changes may offer strategic long-term benefits for CGTrader, but they come at the cost of seller trust, motivation, and perceived fairness. When creators feel devalued or exploited, the natural response is to stop uploading, raise prices, or move to alternative platforms.

We, as creators, are not just content suppliers — we are the foundation of CGTrader. You’ve built a powerful platform, and many of us want to keep contributing, but we also ask to be respected and fairly rewarded.

Thank you for listening.

lassebauer wrote
lassebauer
As much as I understand the impulse to appeal to their sense of fairness and ethics, I think you are making the mistake of thinking that they care. Look at their actions (and corporate speak): they tell you clearly in which direction they are moving and whose interests they prioritise. CGT revenue is growing while having a deficit of 800K € last year. IMO they are either squeezing creators to go to a surplus, or "cleaning up" before a sale. I think the latter is the case, since pissing off everyone doesnt seem to be a sustainable longterm strategy.
Posted 3 days ago
1

I still do not fully understand what is this all about... Cgtrader, please explain us making some better and simplier examples.

mkiii wrote
mkiii
Try asking them directly. Good luck. I have not had a response to anything regarding their changes so far.
Posted 2 days ago
4

This is unacceptable. I'm done with cgtrader, there are better places to sell.

Posted 2 days ago
2

A heads-up to fellow sellers: before uploading any new models, consider holding off until we actually see the “increased visibility and revenue” CGTrader promises from this update. This is the most effective move until it's clear whether this benefits creators as much as it benefits CGTrader.

3DCargo wrote
3DCargo
Its not beneficial, this is the last draw for me. When I get time im taking everything off this platform. Thanks for all the fish!
NeoStarStudios wrote
NeoStarStudios
@3DCargo Deleting your models won't help, they already have them. Just stop uploading new ones.
gjuroo wrote
gjuroo
@NeoStarStudios: They DON'T "have them". If you remove (delete) models from store, CGT is not allowed to sell them just because the models are still on their servers.
NeoStarStudios wrote
NeoStarStudios
@gjuroo: The models won't be up on the store for the general public anymore, but that doesn’t mean they’re totally gone. There's nothing stopping the platform from using them in other ways, like offering them to the enterprise clients they mentioned or including them in datasets for AI training. Just because they're not supposed to do that doesn’t mean they won’t.
3DCargo wrote
3DCargo
@NeoStarStudios, isnt it from July 14th, I would assume they have to give notice?
NeoStarStudios wrote
NeoStarStudios
@3DCargo In theory, yes, but I don’t trust them. They’ll basically do whatever suits them, regardless of the rules.
Posted 2 days ago
8

Shady company:
"Dear CGtrader, after verifying all of the 1000 models you kindly sent us for free, we concluded they don't fit our needs, but thanks though. We will now proceed to delete all the models... we will... I assure you... trust us..."

maxpsr wrote
maxpsr
Dear CGtrader, after training our AI model on 1000 models you kindly sent us for free......
Posted 2 days ago
1

I have read what has been written under this topic so far. I have also read the responses of the few CGTs given to complaints and dissatisfactions (empty, deceptive). It is known that the words "morality", "justice", "fairness" are replaced by "immorality", "theft", "dishonor" in the vocabulary of CGT and similar company owners and managers.

In short, we, the artists, lose our rights over the models we upload to CGT the moment we upload them. Because we accepted the contract prepared by CGT (unilaterally) when we became members. They have the right to change the contract unilaterally (in their own interests). It will be difficult for us to protect our rights individually through legal means. Doesn't this saying tell the truth? "Laws are like spider webs, flies are caught, birds pierce through".

As it is said, even if we delete our models, they will never be permanently deleted. CGT only visually indicates that they have been deleted, but they still have those models. I am not uploading new models anymore. I planned to create a website where I can sell my own models and started to build it. However, I do not know if I will be successful. I think that by joining forces, we can sell our models without needing other platforms. What do you think?

mkiii wrote
mkiii
This happened after Turbosquid did the same trick to make their company look more profitable, then sold it... The next 2 concerns I jumped to failed, one of which was something exactly as you described. It takes marketing to sell... Which is why I never objected paying a reasonable "fee", to a site but anything more than 25% is just daylight robbery... Good luck if you go ahead with your plans, but you might find the results less than satisfying unless you plan to do it full-time, and spend cash on it.
Posted 2 days ago
0

"CGTrader will buy licenses at the prices and terms you set for your models. We do not alter your prices or licensing conditions. We will provide clear records of any sales made, so you can always track how your work is being sold."

Licenses for any of my 3D models are not available at the current price. If CGTrader or anyone else wishes to acquire full rights to any model, the cost must be at least 1000 times higher, or they must agree to pay royalties. We don’t sell our work for peanuts.

Posted 2 days ago
4

Funny is even in this thread are people who sell their models under AI license to so called cgt-clients.
You have no right to complain. You are part of the problem. You sold yours and ours future for a small one-time payment.
Ever wondered why are these so called cgt-clients anonymous?

I'm definitely not uploading anything new here even under non-AI license. Shadiness here is too damn high.

dibiadigital wrote
dibiadigital
I started investigating folks after reading your post. Well, what a shock. Those people knowingly stepped on a landmine for a small one-time payment and now they are whining about lost limbs. They should sit this one out. Not uploading anything new here is probably the best course of action.
JimPlatt wrote
JimPlatt
The model I sold to AI we're created before the No AI training was even an option to opt out of and I was under the assumption that all the licenses had been changed to No AI. All models created since, I opt for no AI, however this has become redundant as I will be nil-by-upload here for the foreseeable, never checked until the cgt-reaper came-a-knocking a couple months back!
LemonadeCG wrote
LemonadeCG
@JimPlatt, licenses can be changed in bulk, it's as easy as couple clicks, so your excuse that your models were created before introduction of noAI license is lame. You have to be proactive about your models if you want to earn the right to complain.
Posted 2 days ago
0

Well here we are!!!!

Think I'm done! This is the final nail in the coffin for me! I feel I'm a reasonable person and I understand the impact AI is having on 3D model content and the world in general, but there are too many changes of late that have negatively impact us, the artist. Once you submit your model to AI training, its value has diminished forever, for a one time asking price! This is something I never signed up for!!!!! 2 months back Cgt-clients came-a-knockin took and delayed payment for a load of my models created before No AI training was even an option to opt out of! To use a term I've seen throughout this thread 'very shady!' Surely, No AI should be standard and something you don't need to opt into.

Now you want to take my work, resell it anyway you see fit, to the highest bidder to line your own pockets......No no no! The introduction of the boost credits and the change in royalties plus the fees you pay on top of all this just to get payed make the little money I made here even less worth the while!

Marius Kalytis the founder of this site where are you! Cgtrader used to be about giving the Artist(the little guy/gal)a fair crack of the whip. Alas it's sold it's soul to big AI tech and greedy corporate hedge funds. Think we're at the edge of a dangerous precipice here people!

Where is it all gonna end up? Upping prices and no more uploads here for me till something changes and I suggest people here do the same no matter how big or small you think your contribution is to this site. I was going to opt out of any sales events but somehow its been done for me and its staying that way!

mkiii wrote
mkiii
I have had 2 replies so far about this change, and regarding our ability to opt out. So far all I have got is the Boiler-Plate response, "we understand your concerns", "We value your input" platitudes & a simple restatement of the message as at the top of the thread. Simply put - they won't answer the question, so I assume, they are hoping we will stop asking, not notice (as in the majority of people selling here it seems, judging by the low numbers on the forums), or just go away & stop bothering them. My suggestion is to keep emailing them, messaging them & generally bothering them until someone slips up and provides an answer.
Posted 1 day ago
7

I contacted CGtrader for clarification and to provide feedback as needed.
Here's the email exchange:

me :
Hello,
I'm contacting you regarding this change:
"Dear Seller,
We're updating Section 18.11 of our General Terms and Conditions to create more sales opportunities for your 3D models, especially with large enterprise buyers.
What's Changing?
To better connect your creations with enterprise clients, Section 18.11 now allows CGTrader itself to purchase licenses for your models in order to re-sell and sublicense them to enterprise buyers.
This change enables us to meet the specific needs of large companies for bulk purchases by addressing their procurement requirements. It’s designed to boost your visibility, open up new opportunities and new sales channels.
How Does This Help You?
This update offers significant benefits by expanding your market reach:
More sales opportunities: Your models can now be considered by large businesses with specific purchasing requirements.
Wider audience: Access bigger projects and corporate deals that might have been out of reach before.
Easier bulk sales: We'll handle the complex process for large enterprise purchases, simplifying it for you."
To begin with, I categorically reject this change. And I need to clearly understand what it means.
So please make it understandable.
I await your response.

cgtrader:
Hello,
This is a sitewide update and is mostly a formality - from your perspective, little will actually change.
First, you still fully own your models. This update does not transfer ownership to CGTrader. It simply allows us to purchase a license at your set price and resell it once to a single enterprise buyer - no multiple resales.
This change is designed to help us work with large clients who require special procurement processes, opening up new sales opportunities for your work.
Please note that your pricing and licensing terms remain unchanged, and you’re compensated for every sale. You'll also have full visibility into these transactions.
As for the “verification” process, it’s a standard step in enterprise purchasing, and we only work with reputable buyers who follow all licensing terms responsibly.
This is a platform-wide update meant to support long-term growth, but your feedback is incredibly important as we continue to improve the experience for all sellers.
All the best,

me:
Hello,
Thank you for your feedback.
The text of your modification is vague and unclear. I suggest you modify it as you just explained it to me. Because as it stands, it's a source of conflict.
But overall, I still don't understand how the current process is problematic for the customers you're referring to.
Any customer can add a variety of models to their cart and purchase them all at once.
Unless you're referring to the VAT, which would be a single charge, not multiple charges.

cgtrader:
Hi again,
I agree that it may sound a little confusing but it is written this way in a legal language to comply with terms and conditions guidelines.
It is simple to add models to cart and proceed with a purchase but when it comes to bulk orders that are comprised of hundreds or even thousands of purchases, it is much easier for enterprise clients to purchase the models directly from us, both from an accounting and legal perspective.
I'm happy that my clarification was helpful. Let me know if you need anything else.
All the best,

me:
Thank you for the clarification.
But who might his clients be? Because buying hundreds, even thousands of models, as you mentioned, I only see AI companies? Otherwise, do you have any examples of non-AI companies?
Again, I know we're being picky, but we need clear and concise information in order to take action if necessary.
And besides, a contract doesn't need a specific form or language as long as it complies with applicable laws. This kind of language tends to confuse the party you want to harm.

cgtrader:
Hi again,
Unfortunately, we are not able to disclose specific buyers or their intended uses due to confidentiality. I can say that uses are various and not limited to one kind.
Regarding AI training, last year we introduced a license subtype for Royalty Free and Editorial models that specifically prevent this type of use (Royalty Free No AI and Editorial No AI). If you want to prevent your models from being used for AI training, you can change your license type.
All the best,

me:
These notions of confidentiality are convenient.
And how can we verify this? How can we trust you, especially with the changes CGtrader has implemented that favor its profitability at the expense of ours?
Everything is as opaque as the amended section 18.11.
This therefore means that companies are indeed AI companies; in any case, they are the only ones with such a significant need.
We have prohibited this use in all our models. We obviously ask for transparency at this level. This means that CGtrader will never have to purchase our models; otherwise, we can only assume that there is a violation of the prohibition for AI.
Sincerely,

I'll let you judge this exchange and make the decisions that seem appropriate to you.

madefun3d wrote
I didn't know about this change in licenses that included options for Royalty-Free-No-AI and Editorial-No-AI. Did they sent an email informing about this?, I sure don't remember receiving any notification. Had I known, I would have changed the licenses type for all my models to Royalty-Free-No-AI. I am doing that right now. Everybody should do the same.
Posted 1 day ago
2

@JuditaCGTrader
1. You write here: "Verification or testing:...This process is standard practice in many industries where buyers need to assess the product before purchase."
When you talk here about "...standard practice in many industries..." it causes at least surprise in normal people. Here's a simple example. When you go to a shoe store, you try on shoes to assess the quality, hold them in your hands, feel them and then decide to buy. But no one will let you take shoes out of the store for FREE to "TEST" them, use them and then return them and say that they don't suit you. So your argument is absolutely untenable. It doesn't work like that in the digital industry. Because the digital product, once transferred, forever remains on the side of the tester and its return is physically impossible.
But you know, let me tell you about what a normal "standard practice" is for companies (like yours). Normal "standard practice" is not to try to worsen the situation of people who have dedicated themselves to the development of your platform, but to do everything possible so that this situation improves every year and brings fruits not only to you, but also to the creators of 3D.
All that you have done recently is you have dealt a blow to the financial situation of people who have been creating the image of cgtrader for YEARS, creating profits for you. And each of your subsequent steps is Zugzwang.
2. You write here "...Rest assured, we collaborate only with credible enterprise buyers who adhere to licensing terms and handle procurement responsibly..."
You know, we were confident in the reliability of cgtrader and that is why we are here and there are so many of us. We trusted cgtrader and that is why we sent our models here (our many years of painstaking work). Many of us did "Wildcat custom modeling" for cgt-wildcat, including me... We did these projects for absolutely unfair prices. And thus brought profit to cgtrader. But you did not even spare us, taking away more than 10% of our payments and snatching these crumbs from our mouths. Because the management of cgtrader has a very short memory... You "combed" everyone with the same comb... You show all of us, 3D creators, the middle finger over and over again as a "reward" for our many years of work. And each time this middle finger gets longer and longer. That is why your assurances that you work with "...credible enterprise buyers..." cause so much indignation and mistrust. Because cgtrader made us all doubt and become disappointed in the reliability and compliance with the high standards of "...standard practice in many industries..." first of all, cgtrader itself.

Posted 1 day ago
0

I got a reply after a couple of attempts at asking to my "Is there an opt out?". The answer is NO... WHY? No reason given :-

From https://www.cgtrader.com/designers/JuditaCGTrader
Hi again, we understand your concerns and want to clarify things again.

This update does not change your ownership or override the license terms you’ve set. CGTrader only purchases licenses under your existing pricing and licensing settings, and each license is used once for a specific enterprise client - not resold or redistributed

Currently, there is no opt-out option, as the process fully respects the license you’ve already applied to your models. Nothing is being changed, re-licensed, or resold outside of those terms.

We understand your frustration and are actively looking at ways to increase transparency for sellers moving forward

Posted 1 day ago
2

When a platform refuses to offer an opt-out, even after receiving clear user requests, it's reasonable to assume it's because they fear too many users would opt out if they knew the full picture (e.g., generative AI use, vague licensing, resale-like behavior). It's also likely a sign that they are operating at the edge of legality.

Saying “we’re not changing your license” is just another way of saying: we’re pushing the boundaries of what you already agreed to.

The lack of an opt-out is a strategic and political move, not a technical limitation.

If they were truly being transparent, they could:

Clearly explain how and by whom the content is being used.

Provide an opt-out for this specific program without forcing sellers to remove their models from the marketplace.

Disclose where licenses go (e.g., industry, usage type, client profile).

Why should these enterprise clients remain anonymous?

Posted 1 day ago
2

One thing I do know, is all my models will be set to the maximum allowed of $10,000 on the day before this is implemented. Obviously I will get no normal sales, but we will see what happens. I would suggest everyone do this for a while to see if they get any CGT Sales.

Posted 1 day ago
2

At the moment, working with CGTrader feels like:

"I'll make CG artists an offer they can't refuse." – Don Vito CGTrader Corleone

And the next day...

"Who do you think you’re dealing with right now?
Just a simple platform where artists upload and wait?
Do you have any idea how much control we hold over this whole business?
Honestly, even if we told you, you might not believe it. Do you know what would happen if we decided to pull the plug?
The marketplace would shrink, listings vanish, sales dry up. It wouldn’t just stall, it would disappear.
No, you clearly don’t know who you’re talking to, so let us make this clear: we are not at risk here, CG artists. We are the one calling the shots.
A seller logs in, sees their royalties shrink, and thinks it’s just the market? NO! WE ARE the ones who knocks." – Walter CGTrader White

Who said I'm far from reality ?!

Posted 1 day ago
1

Here we go down the drain! Didn't I say it would be fun..

Posted 1 day ago
5

Ok, I don't want to be part of this misuse of my intellectual property. What are my options? Is there a way to simply delete my account or I have to delete all my models one by one?
By international law, CGT can't use my models in any way if I delete them from my CGT store.
If I have to search for clients, I'll rather open my own store.
CGT was supposed to care of us as we are the main source of income for them. As I see, this relationship is breaking. CGT decided to exploit us although we were loyal in this realtionship.
Anyways... I will not sign this agreement.
Either CGT will give us option to opt-out or they'll give us option to simply delete the account. This way silly "Terms and Conditions" won't apply to people who don't agree with "Terms and Conditions"
Luckily, I don't have so many models to delete..

In last few months we've agreed a lot in favour of CGT. There was absolutely no progress in favour of modelers / sellers since I became a member of this platform.
We made our own progress by making good jobs. Now, CGT took this away from us and just wants us to be obedient sheeps.
I really don't care if you want to play dirty. Just give me the option not to play with you.

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Posted about 16 hours ago
4

Even if you don’t want your models being sold to a particular company or used in enterprise projects, you can’t say no. There's no setting to disable it, you're in whether you like it or not.

I lose control over where and to whom my work is being licensed, and that’s a big deal for creators who are careful about where their models end up, especially with all the shady AI data scraping and black-box corporate usage.

They call it a “legal formality,” but I call it a non-consensual redistribution of our work.

And again:
We cannot opt out.

If you're someone who uploads to CGTrader because you value direct control over licensing, this change should concern you. I don’t want my models quietly ending up in massive pipelines or AI datasets just because CGTrader made a private deal with some enterprise buyer, even if it’s "just once."

Posted about 15 hours ago
2

Ok, so, for me at this point, based on all said and done by CGT in the last months, it looks like we will have the same expressed fake concerns sprinkled with little hints for hope and possible future changes and they will just change nothing, no matter what we say or do.
Everything is already decided, possible damages calculated and they follow the plan.
It looks like for us it will be 'game over' probably sooner than we think.
One thing is clear - I'll not upload anything new here anymore.
The only thing left to decide is whether to delete all models next month or significantly up the prices.

3DCargo wrote
3DCargo
Im in the same boat, however follow the last 3 quick changes in succession, I see plenty more coming which are not in favor of us. I think if we dont act before July 14 then its downhill from there. I probably wont continue with CGT, still deciding but I see no reason why I should.

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