For what reasons my models were removed?

Discussion started by SellFace

My two last models(Glock 17, Mossberg 590) were suspended for unknown reason. They were actually made by me, not stolen. And i have seen similar models published on the marketplace.

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Posted about 1 month ago
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You're not alone with this problem. Lately cgtrader is removing firearms models on a large scale.

SellFace wrote
But why? I personally like making firearms models. I guess, others and i can only wait for answers. Or else i don't have any other choice except for moving to another stock.
Posted about 1 month ago
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Since some moment CGT started suspending "weapons". Without explanations. It's very stupid. But I suppose it's due to some EU or USA dumb bureaucratic law or directive. Even pendant (just pendant, trinket, apparel...) shaped as shield with sword had "pending" status for few days before "censors" approved it.

It's disgusting.

SellFace wrote
Welp, that's preety sad, as I always had a nice opinion on this site. Have completely no idea, why are they doing this.
Posted about 1 month ago
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I'm sure CGT has some valid reasons to do that, but not explaining those reasons is not a good move.
Maybe there is a reason for that too, but we will never know until someone officially clears the situation.

Posted about 1 month ago
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I have got an email from support, that answers to my question. They actually delete all printable weapon models, even replicas and etc. Well, at least now I know the reason.

Posted about 1 month ago
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i emailed cgtrade about them. they didt couldt give me a legal or proper respons back to me.. acording to them a pictany rail is a weapon and is banned from cgtrade...

Posted about 1 month ago
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Actually they sent emails/private messages:

We have recently updated our content policy regarding 3D printable models of guns. These changes have been implemented to address societal concerns and regulatory changes.
CGTrader is no longer permitting 3D printable models which are replicas or realistic depictions of guns or other firearms on our marketplace.
We have reviewed all 3D assets and have suspended those matching this criteria. Please keep this content policy change in mind when you upload new 3D assets to your portfolio on CGTrader.
If any of your 3D models of guns affected by this update can be used for other purposes in addition to 3D printing, please remove all 3D printing file formats from the 3D models’ archive and reupload them.

skapricorn wrote
skapricorn
Yes. They sent. Few days after "weapons removing campaign" was finished. Not so clever tactics for CGT.
Posted about 1 month ago
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if think there i a legal way around it. they say they dont want 3d printable guns.. so instead of uploading .stl files upload .step files they are for cnc machining but easly can convert to .stl BUT i once had a conflict with them and they where claiming that .STL CANNOT be converted to .STEP. funny . they have no clue what the are talking about

skapricorn wrote
skapricorn
Admins are lazy but not retarded. If selling model is suitable to any kind of production of functioning weapons, they will suspend it independent on file format.
MW-Creativity wrote
MW-Creativity
you say fuctioning weapons does that include airsoft?
Posted about 1 month ago
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excuse me.. since there is no editing buton i ment .step to .stl not stl to step

Posted about 1 month ago
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skapricorn wel the thing is. they even ban the pictany rails.. and that is not a weapon

skapricorn wrote
skapricorn
I know. They're just stupidly executing stupidous "law" directives.
LemonadeCG wrote
LemonadeCG
What is a weapon? You can dissasemble your firearm model to its constituent pieces and say that is not a weapon. That doesn't make it more legal to sell though. Personally, i'm ok with those restrictions. It's better to have too strict gun control laws, than not to have them at all. Just look at USA.
MW-Creativity wrote
MW-Creativity
so does a pictany rail make a weapon?
Posted about 1 month ago
1

LemonadeCG you realy think a criminal wil go trough all the trouble to make 3d printed gun? hey even a home made stengun is more easier...

trimitek wrote
trimitek
You have to buy parts and machines which can be tracked for that and it will be easier to prove who made it. On the other hand for 3D printed weapon you will buy the same materials as usual and is a lot more harder to track. But I think it will better to not discuss those things. No need to give ideas to crazy people.
LemonadeCG wrote
LemonadeCG
MW-Creativity, i don't think that it's possible at the moment to print functional firearm from the files that are selling on stock model markets, but... technology is advancing every day and soon, home made nontrackable 3D printed firearms can become a grim reality.
MW-Creativity wrote
MW-Creativity
not possible? lol under what rock are you living??? i could print out a working bolt on any 3d printing service platform that allowed brass casting or cnc maching company's they dont even know what a bolt is to begin with . and the hardest part is to get ammunition for it and not the firearm it self..
Posted about 1 month ago
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I think, that the only thing that everyone need to do is to NOT include stl format(The only 3d printable format, i guess?), so your weapon wont have problems.
The bad thing is, they didn't warn me about changes in rules, only a day after I wrote a support about the suspendings, and a several days after that I have received message about that. I would't mind just removing the format only, but deleting the whole model without immediate explanations?
Also, people can reupload deleted models without printable formats now.

LemonadeCG wrote
LemonadeCG
There are many formats that are directly suitable for 3D printing, like OBJ, WRL, AMF and many others. And even if you don't provide any of those, it is relatively very easy to convert any polygonal or NURBS model to format that is suited to 3D printing. Cgtrader explicitly disallowed to sell printable firearms models. If you'll try to circumnavigate the prohibition by not uploading certain formats, you may face account termination.
MW-Creativity wrote
MW-Creativity
Lemon the problem is that CGtrade does this very un profesionaly.. at shapeways they have guide lines of what kind of weapon parts are and are not allowed. CGtrade does not say this accuratly. acording to them a pictany rail is a weapon and is banned
skapricorn wrote
skapricorn
Shortly: I don't think any prohibition is effective (may be it brings more profit to few prohibitors and false feeling of "security" to majority of manipulated masses). Prohibitions basically makes our lives in fact not more secure, but more complicated... Whatever, if majority supports such stupidous "laws", then as said "dura lex, sed lex". Personally I don't like weapons (it's just not interesting for me in any aspect). And I'm agree with MW-Creativity about unprofessional actions. Instead of serious job, CGT just temporarily suspended lots of innocent models just by dumb keywords. Even fuckin low-poly fantasy swords for games and jewelry that depicted shield and sword. It's hilarious!!! And it's also complication for authors and sellers. Yes, they brought back suspended models after lots of requests "Why?" but after some time of waiting. And letter with explanation's was mass-sent after fer days when "cleaning" was finished. And without any links to law acts (as proof). It's bad and totally unprofessional. CGT has more serious problem with content that (seems) will never be solved, than "filtering weapons". And this "anti-weapons" action looks like fake activity. Banning picatinny rail is stupid just because it's just part for mounting any thing to any base, problem is just in "military standartization". And what about this: https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/other/aimpoint-and-handle-adapter or this https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/hobby-diy/other/fore-end-ak47-with-picatinny-rail or this https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/hobby-diy/mechanical-parts/m4-magazine-parts or this https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/hobby-diy/mechanical-parts/trigger-guard-for-steyr-mannlicher-model-m-rifles or this https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/hobby-diy/other/tactical-grip-stl-model or this https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/games-toys/other/stg44-foresight .... It's just few links from bunch of not banned models. Presence of these models says about "double standards" or (more likely) about how bad are working administrators (seems like they have salaries without any duty).
skapricorn wrote
skapricorn
Or this https://www.cgtrader.com/swedish-silence So last anti-weapons campaign was just a farce.
Posted about 1 month ago
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But there are still a lot of OBJ models of the glock for example. I thought, that only stl format is recognised by cgt, as printable. By the way, technically,almost ALL weapon models should be removed. I still don't quite understand the logic behind the new rule

Posted about 1 month ago
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I'm ok with restricting firearms that can be printed, because the harder it is to obtain such the better, but I have to agree that the way it was done here is kind of pointless.

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